Dustin Milligan Recalls Holding His Dad's Hand in the Final Moments Before He Ended His Life with MAID: 'One Last Gift'

Dustin Milligan shared he held his father's hand as he chose medical aid in dying at the end of his dementia journey

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  • Milligan described his father as a physicist and philosopher who faced his diagnosis with curiosity and acceptance

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Dustin Milliganshared that he held his father's hand as he chosemedical aid in dyingamid hisdementiajourney, explaining, "he wanted to go on his own terms."

Milligan, who played kind veterinarian Ted onSchitt's Creek,shared a throwback photo of his father adjusting the kerchief of his Beaver Scout uniform toInstagramon March 31. In the accompanying caption, Milligan, now 40, said that he was with his father as he died, writing, "I held his hand as he drew his last breath. It was a gift. One of many."

He shared that he and his father began their "ongoing dialogue about his Dementia" three years ago, explaining that, at first, it manifested as "moments of confusion, repetition, and memory gaps I'd noticed. They felt like more than just aging. More than just echoes of his stroke from a decade prior."

Dustin Milligan shared his father's dementia struggle in a post on InstagramCredit: Charles Sykes/Bravo via Getty

His father noticed the changes as well, so "we got him tested, diagnosed, and began adjusting to the simple, surreal new reality: his mind was slipping away, and it was never going to stop."

As "a physicist and a mathematician and a dreamer," Milligan said his father "wasn't angry about it. Or in denial. He said he had "a scientific mind with a philosopher's heart. He found it fascinating. He told me when he noticed it getting worse, and would ask me what I was seeing. I told him the truth. And that's how we navigated it. Side by side. Openly and honest."

"He told me he wanted to go on his own terms, using MAiD," Milligan wrote, using abbreviation for medical aid in dying, which islegal in Canada."He told me he didn't want to progress to the point that he couldn't eat on his own or bathe on his own or remember his children. I understood."

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TheHot Frostyactor was hands-on with his father's care, sharing that he would prepare his meals, cut his food, and open his pill bottles "as his dexterity broke down." They would "speak by playing harmonica together, as his language diminished," calling it a gift to be "his caregiver, advocate, and son."

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As his father's health declined, his dad remained "resolute" in his decision, Milligan wrote. "He didn't want to suffer any further. He knew what he wanted. He stood by his choice and was happy to be able to make it," he wrote, adding, "MAiD is a gift."

He shared that he was with his father, holding his hand, when he died: "We sat together, side by side, when he spoke his last words: 'Hold onto me. Hold on tight.'

He ended his post by sharing, "We held each other's hand as tightly as we could. The procedure began, his grip loosened, and he let go. Now I learn to do the same. One last gift."

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Nancy Grace slams sheriff's handling of Guthrie case: 'The fish stinks at the head'

For Nancy Grace, theNancy Guthriecase is personal.

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As a former prosecutor, she knows firsthand how mishandling of a crime scene early on can complicate the case if it ever gets to court — and it can put the search for Guthrie in jeopardy, too, she said in an interview on Sean Hannity's new podcast,"Hang Out with Sean Hannity."

But the 84-year-old's suspected abduction also brought back painful memories from her own past — the murder of her fiancé during summer break from college in 1979.

When Guthrie's daughter, "Today" co-hostSavannah Guthrie,gave her first televised interview with colleague Hoda Kotb last week, the emotional account reminded Grace that "you're never the same" after a loved one is taken away.

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The emotions ran raw, Grace told Hannity, but other aspects of the case pained her, too.

The sheriff released the crime scene back to the family beforebringing the FBIinto the case days later. In the interim, delivery drivers and journalists walked up to the front door, dropping off parcels and taking photographs.

"By destroying the crime scene and by releasing the crime scene too early, they destroyed a lot of evidence," she said.

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"People called them 'missteps,' that is certainly putting perfume on the pig, isn't it?" Grace said. "That's a euphemism, 'missteps' — they're screw-ups. The feds wouldn't have done that."

Then, as the special agent in charge of the FBI's Phoenix office was with the Guthrie family filming a video response to a ransom demand that authorities viewed as potentially credible, the sheriff was caught on camera enjoying anArizona Wildcats basketball game.

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Hannity noted that once the FBI did get involved, the bureau worked with Google to obtain imagery from Guthrie's missing Nest doorbell camera that the sheriff's department had not been able to recover.

"I don't like attacking the actual men and women that are doing the work. The fish stinks at the head, Sean," Grace said. "It's Nanos. He stinks. He's gotta go. But that's a distraction to finding Nancy Guthrie."

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"When Savannah was talking...when she felt like it was her fault, she said, 'Oh, Mommy, Mommy, I'm sorry. I am sorry,'" Grace said. "It took me right back to that moment — those horrible moments — when I was lying there in the dark, feeling like howling, because there just were no words."

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Nancy Guthrie Disappearance Sparked Harrowing 12-Hour Odyssey For Savannah

Grace's fiancé, Keith Griffin, was killedon his way to work during a break from college — months before they hoped to get married.

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The 23-year-old had a summer gig on a construction crew, she said, and his killer had been fired from the same job before his arrival. Griffin went on a run to pick up drinks for his co-workers and bring them back to the rural job site, arriving in the owner's jacket and driving the company truck.

"The guy came up and just opened fire and shot Keith five times in the face, the neck, the head and the back," Grace told Hannity.

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After his death, Grace dropped out of school. But eventually she returned, she said, motivated to help other crime victims.

"When I would be tired or weary, just as when I was prosecuting, I would think about Keith just looking at me with those big, blue eyes, and I would know it wasmy duty," she said.

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"That's your calling," Hannity replied.

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At one point, Hannity brought up an emotional moment from Guthrie's interview with Kotb — where she acknowledged that her fame and fortune could have provided a motive for the unknown abductors.

"That's not her fault," he said. "Are we supposed to stop living our lives because there's evil in this world?"

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Grace agreed and argued that a victim's family doesn't have a script on how to respond to such a crisis.

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Three people arrested after attempting to break into Larsa Pippen's Miami home

Three people were arrested after allegedly attempting to break into "Real Housewives of Miami" star Larsa Pippen's home on Sunday, Pinecrest Police said.

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Police said in a release onFacebookthat the three people, who were all from out of state, were apprehended within minutes after attempting to flee from the property.

Initially, police were called to the area of 67th Avenue and 113th Street in Pinecrest for a house alarm. Once officers were on their way to the address, they were told that surveillance video showed a "burglary in progress," police said in a separate statement shared with NBC News.

Officers arrived to find a vehicle fleeing the scene, which then crashed at the corner of Southwest 57th Avenue and 94th Street, according to the police statement. The suspects got out of the car and attempted to run to a nearby neighborhood before police took them into custody.

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"This incident serves as a stark reminder that Pinecrest will not tolerate criminal activity," police said in the Facebook statement.

No further information was provided about the incident or the arrest. Representatives for Pippen did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Pippen has been in the headlines recently after reports surfaced this month that Bravo was pausing production of "Real Housewives of Miami" due to low ratings.

Pippen said on her Instagram story she was "not happy" about the news and slammed Bravo sister series, the "Real Housewives of New York City," calling it "terrible without the old cast members."

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Supreme Court's trans conversion ban ruling to start new legal debate

WASHINGTON – TheSupreme Courton March 31 said Colorado's ban on LGBTQ+ "conversion therapy" for young people infringes on the free speech rights of a Christian counselor, the latestlegal setback for LGBTQ+ Americansfrom the high court.

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Colorado officials argued that the law − which is similar to restrictions in about half the states – regulates professional conduct, not speech. And major medical groups have repudiated conversion therapy as ineffective and harmful.

But the Supreme Court sided 8-1 with the therapist challenging the ban, agreeing that the Denver-based 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals should have applied a stricter constitutional test to evaluate the law. The court sent the case back to the appeals court to be reconsidered under the tougher test, which it is unlikely to pass.

Enacted in 2019, Colorado's Minor Conversion Therapy Lawdefines conversion therapyas attempts to "change an individual's sexual orientation or gender identity, including efforts to change behaviors or gender expressions or to eliminate or reduce sexual or romantic attraction or feelings toward individuals of the same sex."

Writing for the majority, Justice Neil Gorsuch said Colorado's law tells the therapist "what views she may or may not express."

"Colorado may regard its policy as essential to public health and safety. Certainly, censorious governments throughout history have believed the same," Gorsuch wrote. "But the First Amendment stands as a shield against any effort to enforce orthodoxy in thought or speech in this country."

Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, who read portions of her dissent from the bench, said the court's decision threatens to prevent states from regulating medical care, risking "grave harm to Americans' health and wellbeing."

"The Constitution does not pose a barrier to reasonable regulation of harmful medical treatments just because substandard care comes via speech instead of a scalpel," she wrote.

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Christian counselor backed by Trump administration

Kaley Chiles, a licensed counselor with a master's degree in clinical mental health who said she practices from a Christian perspective, said the law allows her to help young people embrace a transgender identity but not help them "grow in peace and comfort with the body that you're in."

The Justice Department under the Trump administration backed Chiles, telling the court that Colorado "is muzzling one side of an ongoing debate in the mental-health community about how to discuss questions of gender and sexuality with children."

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Colorado argued conversion therapy is harmful

During the October oral arguments, Colorado state attorney Shannon Stevenson said there's no evidence that conversion therapy works, while studies have shown that "telling someone there is something innate about yourself you can change" is harmful.

But Chiles' attorney disputed the applicability of studies to her form of counseling.

And the Justice Department pointed to a problem with relying on the "prevailing standard of care" to regulate therapy, noting that as recently as the 1970s, the medical community agreed that being gay was a mental illness.

Protesters rally outside the Supreme Court as the justices hears oral arguments on whether Colorado's ban on providing conversion therapy to LGBTQ+ children violates a private therapist's rights to free speech in Washington, D.C., on October 7, 2025.

The American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental illness in 1973.

More than a dozen mental health and medical professional organizations – including the American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association – now say efforts to change someone's sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression "do not meet the criteria of a legitimate therapeutic treatment."

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Still, in 2023, The Trevor Project – an advocacy group for LGBTQ+ people – saidit foundmore than 600 professional counselors who say they can help alter someone's sexual orientation or gender identity. (The group identified hundreds of additional unlicensed counselors who operate through a religious capacity and are not covered by laws like Colorado's.)

"The Supreme Court's decision to treat the dangerous practice of conversion therapy as constitutionally protected speech is a tragic step backward for our country that will put young lives at risk," Trevor Project CEO Jaymes Black said in a statement after the ruling.

Chiles, the Colorado therapist, called the decision "a victory for counselors and, more importantly, kids and families everywhere."

"Counselors walking alongside these young people shouldn't be limited to promoting state-approved goals like gender transition, which often leads to harmful drugs and surgeries," she said.

Justice Elena Kagan, one of the two liberals who voted with the court's six conservatives, said Colorado may be able to regulate counseling as long as the state's rules are "viewpoint-neutral."

"Fuller consideration of that question, though, can wait for another day," she wrote in a concurring opinion joined by Justice Sonia Sotomayor. "We need not here decide how to assess viewpoint-neutral laws regulating health providers' expressions because, as the Court holds, Colorado's is not one."

In a statement, Colorado Gov. Jared Polis said he is considering how to proceed. Polis, the country's first openly gay elected governor, signed the law.

"Conversion therapy doesn't work, can seriously harm youth, and Coloradans should beware before turning over their hard-earned money to a scam," said Polis, a Democrat. "I am evaluating theU.S. Supreme Courtruling and working to figure out how to better protect LGBTQ youth and free speech in Colorado."

String of losses in LGBTQ+ cases from Colorado

Colorado, a pioneering state for gay rights, has beenat the centerof two previous Supreme Court cases about LGBTQ+ issues in the past seven years.

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In those cases, the court sided witha website developeranda cake bakeropposed to providing some services to gay customers because of their religious beliefs.

More recently, in a case from Tennessee, the Supreme Court ruled last year that states can bangender affirming care for minors, including surgeries, puberty blockers and hormone treatments.

More:Supreme Court to take up blockbuster case on transgender athletes joining girls' teams

The justices are currentlyconsideringwhether states can prevent transgender girls and women from playing on female sports teams.

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Oil and gas prices won't immediately return to normal even if the Iran war ends, the EU warns

NICOSIA, Cyprus (AP) — Skyrocketing oil and gas prices in Europe as a result of the ongoingIran warwon't return to normal levels any time soon, even if peace is declared tomorrow, the European Union's energy commissioner warned Tuesday.

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Commissioner Dan Jørgensen said although there are no immediate oil and gas supply shortages in the 27-member bloc, there's pressure on diesel and jet fuel supply as well as "increasing constraints" in global gas markets that are resulting in higher electricity prices.

"What I find extremely important is to state as clearly as I can, that even if that peace is here tomorrow, still we will not go back to normal in a foreseeable future," Jørgensen told a news conference after a meeting of EU energy ministers.

He said the EU's executive arm is preparing a string of measures designed to help families and businesses weather the huge spike in oil prices that have resulted in about a 70% price hike for gas and 60% for oil in Europe. Sincethe start of the war, the EU's bill for imported fossil fuels has jumped by 14 billion euros, according to Jørgensen.

Closely coordinated action between all EU members is necessary to "avoid fragmented national responses and disruptive signals to the markets," he said.

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The "toolbox" of measures now in the works will be unveiled "quite soon" and will include ways to make it easier for states to decouple gas prices from electricity prices, the commissioner said. He added that a tax cut on electricity, as suggested byCommission President Ursula von der Leyenis also being weighed.

Jørgensen said although he doesn't foresee a repeat of the 2022 natural gas crisis where companies reaped huge profits from a massive gas price hike, a one-time "windfall tax" on such companies "is a possibility."

There are now "good opportunities" for member states to financially support vulnerable groups or industries now under "extraordinary stress" and that the Commission would make "these possibilities even simpler and wider," said Jørgensen.

Jørgensen also encouraged EU members to consider the International Energy Agency's 10-point plan which includes work from home, reduced highway speeds, encouraging public transport and increasing car sharing.

He said the EU stands by its ban onRussian gas purchases, which is meant to reduce dependence on Russian gas and choke off funding for Russia's war in Ukraine. Reliance on Russian gas dropped from 45% before the war to 10% now and will be reduced to zero once imports from other suppliers ramp up, especially from the U.S. The EU is looking at new energy sources from Azerbaijan, Algeria and Canada as well as smaller producers around the world.

The commissioner warned the EU should never "repeat the mistakes of the past allowing Putin to weaponize energy against us and blackmail member states." He added that "it would be totally unacceptable" for the EU to continue buying energy that would "indirectly help finance the terrible war that Putin is conducting in Ukraine."

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3 FBI agents fired after investigating Trump file class action suit alleging 'retribution campaign'

WASHINGTON (AP) — Three fired FBI agents sued on Tuesday to try to get their jobs back, saying in a class action lawsuit that they were illegally punished for their participation in an investigation into President Donald Trump'sefforts to overturn his 2020 election defeat.

Associated Press FILE - The FBI seal is pictured in Omaha, Neb., Aug. 10, 2022. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall, File) FBI Director Kash Patel and Attorney General Pam Bondi talk before President Donald Trump participates in a roundtable discussion on public safety at a Tennessee Air National Guard Base, Monday, March 23, 2026, in Memphis, Tenn. (AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein) FBI Director Kash Patel, listens during a House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence hearing to examine worldwide threats, Thursday, March 19, 2026, on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP Photo/Tom Brenner) Attorney General Pam Bondi listens during a Cabinet meeting at the White House, Thursday, March 26, 2026, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

Fired Agents Lawsuit

The federal lawsuit adds tothe mounting list of court challengesto a personnel purge byFBI Director Kash Patelthat over the last year has resulted in the ousters of dozens of agents, either because of their involvement in investigations related to Trump or because they were perceived as insufficiently loyal to the Republican president's agenda.

The lawsuit in federal court in Washington was technically filed on behalf of just three agents but may have much broader implications given that its request for class action status could open the door for agents fired since the start of the Trump administration to get their jobs back.

The three agents — Michelle Ball, Jamie Garman and Blaire Toleman — were fired last October and November in what they say was a "retribution campaign" targeting them for their work on the investigation into Trump. The agents had between eight and 14 years of "exemplary and unblemished" service in the FBI and expected to spend the remainder of their careers atthe bureaubut were abruptly fired without cause and without being given a chance to respond, the lawsuit says.

"Serving the American people as FBI agents was the highest honor of our lives," they said in a statement. "We took an oath to uphold the Constitution, followed the facts wherever they led and never compromised our integrity. Our removal from federal service — without due process and based on a false perception of political bias — is a profound injustice that raises serious concerns about political interference in federal law enforcement."

Trump's indictment

The investigation the agents worked on culminated in a 2023 indictment from special counsel Jack Smith that accused Trump of illegally scheming to undo the results of the presidential election he lost to Democrat Joe Biden in 2020.Smith ultimately abandoned that case, along with a separate oneaccusing Trump of illegally retaining classified recordsat his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, after Trump won back the White House in 2024, citing Justice Department legal opinions that prohibit the federal indictments of sitting presidents.

The lawsuit notes that the firings followed the release by Sen. Chuck Grassley, the Republican chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, of documents about the election investigation — known as Arctic Frost — that he said had come from within the FBI. Those records included files showing that Smith's team had subpoenaed several days of phone records of some Republican lawmakers, an investigative step that angered Trump allies inside Congress.

The complaint names as defendants Patel and Attorney General Pam Bondi, accusing them of having orchestrated the firings despite being "personally embroiled" either as witnesses or attorneys in some of the legal troubles Trump has faced.

Patel, for instance, was subpoenaed to appear before a federal grand jury investigating Trump's retention of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago and had his phone records subpoenaed, while Bondi was part of the legal team that represented Trump athis first impeachment trial, which resulted in his acquittal.

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"And now, by virtue of presidential appointment to the pinnacle of federal law enforcement, Defendants are abusing their positions to claim victories that eluded them on the merits," the lawsuit states.

Spokespeople for the FBI and the Justice Department declined to comment on the ongoing litigation. Patel and Bondi have said the fired agents and prosecutors who worked on Smith's team were responsible for weaponizing federal law enforcement, a claim that was also asserted in their termination letters but that the plaintiffs call defamatory and baseless.

The fired agents want 'fundamental constitutional protections'

Dan Eisenberg, a lawyer for the agents, said in a statement that his clients were fired without any investigation, notice of charges or chance to be heard.

"This lawsuit seeks to reaffirm fundamental constitutional protections for FBI employees, ensuring they can perform their duties without fear or favor. We all benefit when law enforcement officers' only loyalty is to facts and the truth," said Eisenberg, who's with the firm of Emery Celli Brinckerhoff Abady Ward & Maazel LLP.

The lawsuit asks for the agents to be reinstated to their positions and for a court declaration affirming that their rights had been violated. It also seeks to represent a class of at least 50 agents who have been terminated since Jan. 20, 2025, or will be. Those agents also stand to recover their jobs in the event the case is successful and the requested class action status is granted.

Others have been fired, too

Other fired employees who have sued include agents who werephotographed kneelingduring a racial justice protest in 2020; an agent trainee whodisplayed an LGBTQ+ flagat his workspace; and a group of senior officials, including the former acting director of the FBI, who were terminated last summer.

The firings have continued, with Patel last month pushing out a group of agents in the Washington field office who had been involved in investigating Trump's hoarding of classified documents. Trump has insisted he was entitled to keep the documents when he left the White House and has claimed without evidence he had declassified them.

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Arsenio Hall Says Howard Stern 'Really Hated' Him for Years: 'I Hope Arsenio Dies'

Arsenio Hall looked back at his feud with Howard Stern

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Arsenio Hall is looking back at his talk show and what role it played in late-night wars.

Hall, 70, is releasinga memoir titledArseniothis week, and he opened up about it in an interview withThe New York Times,published on March 30.The Arsenio Hall Showran in syndication from 1989 to 1994 and became a hit in major markets.

The Timesnoted that Hall's show often "leaned into controversy," including tellingEntertainment Weeklythat he would "kick [Jay] Leno's ass."

"There were times when Jay thought I didn't work as hard as he did. And he criticized my monologue," Hall explained. "And somebody got that to me. We definitely battled." Years later, Hall appeared onThe Jay Leno Show, and the pair have toured together.

The interviewer also noted that Hall appeared onThe Howard Stern Showand noted, "That surprised me, because maybe your ugliest feud was with him."

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Hall explained, "When Magic Johnson contracted H.I.V. and Howard said, 'I hope Arsenio dies,' that's when I realized it wasn't joking around. He really hated me." Hall was friends with Johnson, who announced he had contracted H.I.V. in 1991, and frequently appeared on this show.

In an episode ofThe Tonight Showin 1992, Stern, 72, called Hall a "moron" who "couldn't even do stand-up comedy." He toldEntertainment Weeklyin 1993, "Arsenio has no talent. Arsenio's talent is kissing ass. I can't watch those interviews. I cannot take the ass sucking that goes on on a nightly basis."

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"I'll be honest: It hurt the business a lot. Howard has die-hard fans who do anything he says. Howard can hurt your numbers," Hall said. "My biggest struggle was not against other talk show hosts. It was against an angry Howard."

The Timesasked why he appeared on the show in 2021. "I have pretty thick skin," Hall said. "I heard a therapist use a word called 'weathering' once. When you're Black, between the racism and hate that you experience, there's a weathering that takes place. You build up a callus."

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During his appearance onThe Howard Stern Show,Hall said that he was "the fault in that conflict" with Leno, 75. "There was a magazine that asked me about the competition with Letterman and Jay and with Jay I said, 'I know Jay very well and it's like the Lakers and the Clippers. The Clippers lose, but they don't try to lose, they try to win — and I'm going to try and kick his ass,' " Hall said. "Of course, they put a cover out saying I'm going to kick his ass."

While Hall and Stern did not address their conflict directly,Stern was very complimentaryof Hall's TV series. "Going back and observing your talk show, there's some great stuff to go back there and look at," he said. He praised especially appearances by Michael Jackson, Prince and Bill Clinton (with his saxophone) on the show. "You were delivering the f---ing goods," he said, but noted that there was a perception he wasn't doing enough. Hall said that when Johnny Carson leftThe Tonight Showin 1992, the network wanted him to inherit that audience and lean more "conservative."

In 2020, Stern reflected on his old shows and behavior. "I'll be the first to admit. I won't go back and watch those old shows; it's like, 'Who is that guy?' But that was my shtick, that's what I did and I own it," he said in part. ". . . I came to realize in therapy, if I'm going to be with my kids and have a successful marriage, I can't be insane, completely, 24 hours a day. I have to figure out a better way to communicate. So I evolved and changed."

In his interview withThe Times, Hall noted that there is no fighting among late night hosts anymore. "We're in a weird time where the hosts all came together to go against late night's arch nemesis:Donald Trump. It's like Trump kind of galvanized late night. We fought each other for numbers. Now they're all together for a common cause. It's very weird," he said.

Arseniois available at bookstores everywhere beginning Tuesday, March 31.

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